Anti Monitor Vs Eternity. Some of those. Personally, I think the simplest response to that issue is that Nabu =/= Fate. Kent V found the helmet ( or rather it found him) in 2007's 8 issue mini series countdown to mystery. The Image in the OP wasn't classic Kent. Fate who are wise and just, this version is bitter, cynical and has utterly lost faith in humanity and the other heroes, as have the Lords of Fate. He was already bed-ridden as of the beginning of issue 9, and it is mentioned many times throughout those 4 issues, and seemed to be a fairly significant plot point. Otherwise, he only attacked once, but missed, while Darkseid himself was shot twice, but didn't seem all that hurt. I would lean towards Darksied but I would love to hear some experienced opinion's on this one. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. 2nd of your scans, last panel. And even after draining his powers, Darkseid realizes that it was still insufficient to refill his full power. It was actually retconned into being Desaad, not a doppelganger. He defeated the demon Karkull a century before the age of Superman. It says nothing at all about her being at half power only that she is the other half of Fate. It was only by doing so that he was able to defeat two gods of equal power to him. 1 Biography 2 Injustice: Gods Among Us 3 Injustice 2 4 Powers and Abilities 4.1 Special Moves 4.2 Other Moves 4.3 … Fate in late 1987, and the story arc in question was printed late 1989, so two years real time. Who will win in a fight between Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate and Trigon & Darkseid? The legal owner: WBTV. In the case of the Original Nabu altered Kent Nelson turning him from a child to a man and making him never age and giving him the powers. how she ranks against guys like Green Lantern or Superman or what have you), or what their full abilities are. Their peak feats solo match those of Inza, and of Hector. Darkseid & Thanos @Bane333 LMFAO, Thanos cucked the in-betweener, Tanked a blast that could kill the entire NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES, escaped the god quarry and ABSORB it's power, the god Quarry created INFINITE infinity stones, each being it's own concept, Thanos tanked blasts that killed off all of marvel including ETERNITY and INFINITY, outsmarted GALACTUS moving galactus to his fate Who will win in a fight between Darkseid (New 52) and Doctor Fate? Like Batman said, if you need Darkseid taken care of use this phone number and call in Dr.Fate. @entropy_aegis: I really have no idea how you could interpret anything I said as leading to a victory for Darkseid. The exact words are "half a Fate... at half power...". There is the Original Kent Nelson who was the Golden Age/ Silver Age and classic Fate. Scans 4-6 are the Fates having a hard time fighting off a pack of Parademons. clearly no need for the Helmof Nabu for his strength and invulnerability. The real Darkseid has dictated terms to the combined Lords of Order and Chaos (of which Fate is but 1). Fate has like wise drawn on the power of many god's (lords of order) to defeat high level entities. he had both Fates at his mercy at the end of that issue and they pulled off a win through a plot device of making him feel love and mercy. He knows the world will end—either by Brainiac’s hand, or in a war between Batman and Superman. So everything a Darkseid emanation can do scales to the True Darkseid, but to a larger degree. The rest (except 7th - a mistake) from various tellings of his origin. Desaad by himself was getting the worse of his exchange with Linda. That's correct "in training". Doctor Fate, real name Kent Nelson, was a fierce and powerful sorcerer who became a member of the Justice League after the Thanagarian invasion. Unless you can point out a line to me that I've been missing, I'm pretty sure the Parademons had nothing to do with it, and he was already barely functional before Darkseid even showed up. Tough fight but leaning towards Darkseid. The page before the first scan as i recall she actually hit him from behind with a full blast and it did nothing. Fate Battle 8. DS was about to deliver the finishing blow when Linda Attacked, and his fever began to develop from a parrademon's bite. ... 25 Darkseid (DC) Jack Kirby invented the evil tyrant Darkseid nearly 50 years ago, and the villain still remains a fan-favorite today. @Freefa11: So that means Darkseid wins,and I'm certain Mantis has been able to defeat Fate as well. That version of Fate would defeat DS no question. Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate vs Darkseid & Thanos # Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate He destroyed the in-betweener, beat Eternity and became one with him, he could Handel zom when zom was waaay above Dormammu, he deflected a … In fact with her time in the merged Fate and access to the entity that is fate she was vastly more experienced. ). Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate vs Darkseid & Thanos # Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate He destroyed the in-betweener, beat Eternity and became one with him, he could Handel zom when zom was waaay above Dormammu, he deflected a … They did not seem connected to me. To watch full episodes of YJ download the DCU App.Thanks for coming to my channel! His costume appears in The Hall of Justice, and he is a prominent character in the Injustice comic series along with his headquarters, the Tower of Fate. Kent V is by far the weakest version of Fate, Post Crisis versions of both results in Darkseid winning. The same level that every other Fate has had access to. Actually Fate's feats across all version are quite consistent. Rounds end in death or incapacitation, No BFR Rounds: Round 1: Pre-crisis, in-character. the level of power a mortal can use without a talisman in DC is always limited. That they managed to cure or bring him back later isn't at all surprising, but to claim he wasn't dying at the time is like saying Doomsday didn't beat Superman to the brink of death just because he was okay later. That's why mystics often do better against other mystic powers (of high order) because their power works the same way. Often they have to build the spell to build up the power. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Round 3: New52, in-character. Based on supposed power sets, Dr Fate. @beatboks1: I would say the magic level provided by the helm compared to the wearer's innate ability is pretty dang extreme. The image in the OP is of the Kent V Nelson who is supposed to be the great grand nephew or some such of the original. Linda hits Darkseid and knocks him over. It didn't help Secret. I like how you completely ignored the scans where DS has all the Lords of Order and Chaos basically bending over for his will (and they are the ones who Dr fate and all other DC mystics draw their power from) and focus only on the few scans where I said it was a stand in. He is shot 3 times. Linda attacks again and knocks him off a ledge. It contains many magical Egyptian artifacts. At different times Fate has done crap that all together would probably own Darkseid but he is an inconsistent character. If Kent Nelson is less experienced than Linda, that's fine. All versions have had the power of strength, speed, flight, invulnerability and not aging without the Helm. Thanos vs Darkseid- Darkseid wins unless Thanos has the IG. Who will win in a fight between Darkseid (New 52) and Doctor Fate? @Freefa11: Didn't realize it was Nelson,thought it was just Fate. No, Fate can not defeat Darkseid. Superman. For one thing even teh Spectre couldn't kill Darkseid because he's needed. Darkseid does not actually overpower them, damage them, or force them to do anything. Darkseid gets knocked down again. In fact as she was fueled by her love for Erik she probably had more. Rounds end in death or incapacitation, No BFR. Linda isn't shot at all. Some of the weaker Fates may be 50/50. Darkseid I Believe That Doctor Fate Could Pull Off Some Pretty Insane Stuff With His Magic, But Personally I Think Darkseid's Omega Beams And Super Strength Would Eventually Overwhelm Fate. He was ten when his father found Nabu's tomb in the early 1920's. he did this to be able to access the power not just of Order (through the Helm of Nabu) or of chaos (through his amulet of Anubis) but also the power of human emotion. Darkseid is a DLC villain in Injustice 2 and the overarching antagonist of the game. Fate shoots an energy blast across the screen at an angle of aproximately 30 degrees downward that does six damage on contact. Erik wasn't Dying ( he lived for quite some time afterward, and was rebirthed into a new magical life form to save humanity at the end of the Straus Run), Linda was no less a neophyte than Kent V has been in every showing he's had. There are Two versions of Dr fate with the name Kent Nelson. Normally Himon and Metron would be fairly reliable testimony, but in this case, they are just wrong. Fate. You know, unless Fate is dramatically less powerful than I have been led to believe, the fact he couldn't defend himself from a single band of parademons should already suggest that he's not operating anywhere near his peak. Darkseid has rarely faced off against such a super-power and he should be wary because Franklin is a weapon of mass destruction on a mental and physical level. A Darkseid doppleganger has already defeated not one but two Dr fates and they couldn't prevail. Email to friends Share on Facebook - opens in a new window or tab Share on Twitter - opens in a new window or tab Share on Pinterest - … Powerful sorcerer Kent Nelson wears the Helm of Fate and sees the fate of all mankind, for better or worse. They were not at Desaad's mercy, they were pretty much at the mercy of what appeared to be an endless army of Parademons (although I'm not entirely certain why they couldn't try to escape via teleportation, flight, invisibility, etc). Fate and Spectre were able to stop the universe from being destroyed. For the next few pages he was being trounced by parrademons and then DS again. He does not personally subdue or harm them. Strange Vs. Darkseid. 1 History 1.1 Injustice 1.2 Injustice 2 1.3 Arcade Ending 2 … These two titans of DC UNIVERSE, were being brainwashed by Darkseid, to attack Dr Fate. They can both be affected by strong enough magic. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. After he lands in Apokolips, he is only attacked by Parademons until Linda saves him. Magic isn’t a weakness for Superman, anymore than it’s a weakness for Doctor Fate. The book is in NM- 9.2 condition. So it seems more like a stalemate up to that point (after which they pulled that "power of love" stunt; can't believe an editor OK'd that). There are possibly five showings of "classic Fate" that could be considered higher if you exclude the merged Kent Inza ( which is where the whole concept of Erik Linda came from). Which, funnily enough, actually helps the retcon make a little more sense, since Desaad isn't actually a very powerful character. You are indeed where you belong. he can unleash an assault on a level that Dr Fate would need to build up to or entreat others to achieve. Hmmm, I think if it's Classic SA Fate, he can take it or perhaps pure Nabu since he did hold his own for a little while at least vs. Spectre can take Darkseid. So everything a Darkseid emanation can do scales to the True Darkseid, but to a larger degree. jesserw21 Senior Member. For most of JSA he was only in cameo's and he really didn't make much of a splash. See, now this is a proper argument involving the proper character. Fate). Fate is generally a symbiosis between Nabu and the host, but at times Nabu has both overridden the host and been subdued and shut down by him. They can both be affected by strong enough magic. Strange, for example, I'd think he could just teleport away or open a portal home or something (or just turn invisible or intangible). Before that he had none. Citizenbane should know this as well, since I've seen him bring it up before. Doctor Fate Vs Superman And Martian Manhunter! I think there may be some confusion here. Desaad is not a powerful character, and unless Dr. Going intangible might not help against Omega Beams. Darkseid vs Dr. 4) The male Dr. If you look at for example Dr Strange defeating Shuma-Gorath he did so by drawing on the power of the realms of his enemy. In that sense Linda was less than she could be, however this thread has the battle with Current Kent. Do I think Spectre's inability to destroy DS has any bearing on this match ? The first one is Linda firing at DS and missing then him almost hitting her and her finally tagging him. There is also a difference is power. In fact he had those powers before the Helm was given him. But that still means the helmet CAN provide those tools. His everlasting goal is the utter domination and enslavement of all life in creation, when all is ordered according to his will. he also had the ability to do minor spells and levitate things. In fact with her time in the merged Fate and access to the entity that is fate she was vastly more experienced. He isn't a merged Fate and has never had access to more power than that which Linda did in this issue. Darkseid and Dr Fate have already fought. I suggest you look at the scans again. Even before the plot device, it was more of a stalemate. Power Distribution: Darkseid can grant individuals a fraction of his Omega Force or create new powerful minions such as Omega Superman who could match Dr Fate, Stayne who could match Takion and even Eclipso who could match Spectre. Fate. Fate, The Spectre, or Morpheus. Non magic characters have power to a certain limit and that's it. I'm curious to see how the new 52 levels Fate and Spectre once we see more into them. When Karkull returned, Fate realized that no matter how hard he tried, evil would never give up, and he abandoned the fight. Darkseid is powerful enough to drain Mordru, a powerful multiversal Lord of Chaos (comparable to Nabu, the Lord of Order in Dr. Seriously if we want to talk feats for Kent V Nelson Dr fate vs Darkseid it becomes a slaughter stomp. Superman. (Episode: The Terror Beyond. Okay, so Desaad obviously had a lot of prep in this instance, and access to pretty good technology, which could at least provide some excuse for his showing, but it is still well beyond his normal capabilities (without tech, Desaad probably loses to most street level characters). Know what I mean? During the Straus Fate run. What you are saying here looks like there is little evidence to back up those ideas, or maybe they've got him mixed up with a different Dr. The book is in NM- 9.2 condition. After casting him aside like chaff Erik was then easily taken by a band of parademons. 1) Even with the retcon, it was not an avatar, it was Desaad. Round 2: Post-crisis, in-character. Your comments on Nabu vs. Spectre were at the beginning of your post. Defeating a never before heard from demon ( and never heard again) defeating Lady Blaze, and bringing a soul back from the afterlife ( which by all accounts almost killed him, and Inza Fate accomplished the same with Consummate ease). @DcMarvelUnity: 1.Helm of Naboo is supposed to be superbad.2. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > Dr. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. He then trained him for almost 20 years in the ways of ancient sectrest before he had his debut. @DcMarvelUnity: Helm of Nabu is supposed to be superbad. You don't have the scan here, but on the next page, Linda shatters the hand. In comics, a doppleganger (Desaad) of Darkseid has already defeated not … Or that's what I always thought, like a bond some what between the host and helmet of nabu. However, some believe that all Fate need do is show up and that’s it. The same was true with Erik Straus. Superhero battle match: Darkseid (New 52) versus Doctor Fate. He does not attack them in any way after that. Fate could give Darkseid a rough time here. So yes the merged Fate is more powerful with access to more sources of energy. So he used to need the helmet but has learned to go it without. Though the Helm compels Kent to preserve this grim fate for the sake of Order, Kent’s humanity compels him to intervene on behalf of his heroic friends—and risk the unforeseeable consequenc… Now, I'm not entirely sure just how powerful you are claiming Linda is supposed to be (i.e. 3) That part is irrelevant anyway; Adam Warlock has told Eternity to "begone" to his face... does that mean Adam Warlock is on Eternity's level? Again, I can't really speak to how accurate this assumption is. But as they started to charge Fate, Fate says “Forgive Me, For What I Must Do My Friends. Omega Sanction: Probably one of the most disastrous effects the Omega Effect can give. Cookies help us deliver our Services. When Superman came to his friend to ask for his help, Fate refused, stating that he had become weary of the never-ending battle. Unlike previous incarnations of Dr. In fact, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that he looked okay, but Darkseid missing and then being struck twice does not constitute a victory for him in any way. Alright, so in my opinion, some characters, notably Dr. Yes Nabu has fought the spectre and lasted, as has classic Fate back in All Star Squadron 27 (IIRC) . I only have issues 9-12, so I kind of have to take your word for it. 5) The biggest problem is that Darkseid/Desaad did not defeat them anyway. For me Fate would give him a hell of a fight but he can't win. Now, I don't really know how they compare to Kent Nelson as Fate, since these are the only issues I've seen of them, but between the sickness, split power, and inexperience, I would assume that he is a vastly more formidable version of Fate. Dr Doom vs Lex Luthor- Lex Luthor . DarkseidALE 1 y 11 mo 4 d Doctor Fate vs Darkseid # Darkseid Darkseid crushes the helm of fate in his hands superman did it before These clips are for breakdown and analysis. So even Spectre has concerns where DS is concerned. With magic characters they access power from outside themselves, in some cases also having a certain level of their own inner power. Also, I know Nabu is the source of Fate's power, but more or less the same character when the helmet is on someone, it's Nabu controlling the host to a degree. I already pointed out that the fever had been with him for sometime. Yeah, dude as I was saying earlier I never said Fate would win, just perhaps give him a rough time for a while. he had all those powers before the Helm was given him. Darkseid is powerful enough to drain Mordru, a powerful multiversal Lord of Chaos (comparable to Nabu, the Lord of Order in Dr. It depends. Fate in sort of the same way that Hal Jordan is viewed as being the quintessential Green Lantern (I'm assuming that's the only reason the OP chose him for this battle, because I really can't see the sense of deliberately choosing a weak version of a character to fight someone like Darkseid). Nabu, in his duel with the Spectre, makes a point in differentiating himself, as the last and most powerful lord of order, from the ultimately mortal sorcerer using his power that is Doctor Fate. According to the laws of Magic in the 9th age (DC) mortal mystics could only draw power through the Lords of Order and Chaos, talismans, or familiars, to draw the power through themselves would mean their destruction. Magic isn’t a weakness for Superman, anymore than it’s a weakness for Doctor Fate. Sign Up Login. He could even work vast magic in the valley of power (Nabu's tomb) just as he could in his Salem Tower, without the Helm. How would the current Fate with less showings less experience and less power fare against the real deal. Estacado. I don't know how many appearances she had as Fate in those two years though (it doesn't seem to be many, since it looks like there was a bit of a publication gap between the miniseries she became Fate, and the series where they fought Desaad). He has fought gods and celestials, he has reality warped on a major scale, he is stated as being indestructible /unable to be destroyed. So basically he is a wizard older than than universe itself. The training was before he left Nabu's Tomb and went to the world to become Dr Fate. 1.The Helm itself is not "superbad" it merely allows the wearer to draw power from the Lords of Order. Darkseid gets knocked down. BTW, king saturn, that's the best AV ever. She shoots and misses. As a fan of Dr Fate not Darkseid most of the scans i have saved are to show him looking good (which is the way I usually use them). He has no training and the essence of Nabu hasn't been in the helm since it entered into the body of the late Kent Nelson (original) which was before Erik and Linda were made the "joined" Fate. Living Tribunal Vs Spectre. I actually don't know a lot about Dr. Battle 6. Darkseid can easily defeat Dr Fate. Fate). Superman went off to fight the demon and was given a magic charm by Inza, who lamented that although she was willi… Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press J to jump to the feed. Didn't Nabu go the distance for a while with Spectre? Random encounter, no knowledge, no outside help. Dr. Basically, based purely on what it is supposedly capable of, he is like superman with Dr Strange powers and some martian manhunter skills as well. Basically, based purely on what it is supposedly capable of, he is like superman with Dr Strange powers and some martian manhunter skills as well. When writers want to prolong the story he never unleashes the kind of power we expect of him. Superhero battle match: Darkseid (New 52) versus Doctor Fate. Doctor Strange (Classic) & Doctor Fate vs Trigon & Darkseid. Created by MoNsTeR. As you can see the fact that the power of a Lord of order in a human form has weaknesses that a spirit doesn't also means that the energy form of Nabu who fought Spectre would be stronger than Fate. But these have never been powers of the Helm at all. Exactly which scan shows Desaad clearly beating them? Deadpool Vs Deathstroke. In the same issue he manhandled Nabu (who at the time was in the original Kent Nelson's body and called himself Kent, not really a major feat Nabu in a mortal host was always pretty limited). He is the only one on a par with Classic Dr Strange. Plus, in the Fourth World books themselves, the Presence is never a factor in limiting Darkseid's behavior, New Genesis is, and they should still be around even if the Presence is gone. Now, I'm not saying Fate should win, I just don't think that this fight is a very good showcase of Fate's power. Just how powerful is the helm of naboo? he's also a Dr fate fan but a Darkseid one as well so he'd be the most informed on both and the least biased. Mystic characters aren't always capable of their peak feats because of how magic works in both companies. So anyone arguing the Fates legitimately lost, are basically arguing that Dr. Darkseid was formerly known as Uxas, … And even after draining his powers, Darkseid realizes that it was still insufficient to refill his full power. Fate - Respect thread. Bonus round 1: Pre-crisis, bloodlusted King Kandy. DS was well in control and Fate pulled out a plot win by making DS feel mercy ( retconed to later not be DS). Since at … The only places he could work vast magic in fact. Also when the presence was "missing" Spectre was being coy around DS because he feared what he might do if he was aware that the highest power was nowhere to be found. Which is fine, and I don't think I ever said otherwise, I just don't think that a single retconned, PIS instance that didn't even involve the right characters and wasn't even being presented properly, should be brought up as the be-all-end-all of this battle. Strange, which tends to be the assumption that is often made. I do think if Spectre wasn't jobbing and went all out, he could deal with Darkseid if not kill him. Though his mortal host Kent Nelson tries to fight back. I want more. Nabu in his energy state has advantages that a physical Dr Fate doesn't. Injustice™ 2https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/tid=CUSA05459_00 Gender: Male Location: United States. He may not win, but given what I've seen when both went up against Spectre, clearly Nabu gave him a much harder time then Darkseid did. Darkseid on the other hand has access to his full level of power from the outset of every encounter. My whole point in the Spectre thing was in countering an argument given that Nabu fared well against the Spectre so Fate should win against DS. It's also stated he had had it for weeks when Nelson reveals that his illness is actually a side-effect of his accelerated aging, and that Erik is actually dying from it. The Original Dr Fate for example when he lost the Helm of Nabu and wore a shrunkated version that he created (half helmet) was still a superman type of hero, but with psychic senses etc. Extrapolation is fine as long as evidence is provided, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. To me it looks like they run like so: Scan 2: Darkseid attacks Linda and misses. I've never heard anyone use that as an argument to imply a certain level of power for him. YJ is owned by WB and DC. Marvel Vs DC: The 25 Most Powerful Gods Officially Ranked. So my point was that a more powerful version of Fate was unable to defeat (without a plot device) one of Darkseid's lackeys mascarading as him. He shoots and misses. The only reason they feign a surrender is because he shows them an essentially endless army of parademons, and points out that he can just keep sending wave after wave of them at the Fates until they are just overwhelmed. We always hear about all the awesome stuff they can do but rarely do they use it when it would come in handy. NO, that was what I was also trying to say about the statement of Nabu ( .i.e it's irrelevant ). Erik was shown to be very ill for several issues, and it was stated by Nabu that he was dying. He is the God of Apokolips and father of his deceased son Kalibak. Now DS (except Pre COIE) Vs Classic Fate that would be a completely different story. Doctor Fate was far older than he appeared. So really, people should just be bringing up actual feats for Kent Nelson and Darkseid, not a battle that didn't involve either character. Frankly, the Parademons did far more damage to the Fates and presented a far greater threat than Desaad did. Yeah, one of those things where I guess depending on the host and story determines who has more control or power I suppose. I think Dr. Scan 8: Darkseid animates a stone hand to grab them. He … I think he'd be found wanting. Darkseid did not harm or overpower Linda at all. Fate. There is no reason to believe the presence would prevent anyone else from destroying Darkseid. cmon man, you know fate wasn't winning this six months ago, why you bump it now? The Spectre was prevented from killing Darkseid, of course, but the Spectre operates under different rules from other characters. But you know, both are key characters especially Darkseid as a villian so obviously they won't kill him off. Fate was severely ill and dying of fever. Could go either way with a slight edge to the LT. Battle 7. Yes Dr Fate has super strength, flight invulnerability etc. It is mentioned several times that if only one of them becomes Fate at a time, they are a much weaker Fate than they should be, but I guess that is a relative statement. Scan 3: Text states that Darkseid is "stunned" and "shaken," and views her as a threat. The tower exists in all realities. Kent only has minimal memories of his actions as Fate. Strange Vs. Darkseid. Based on how comics tend to go, Darkseid. no mention of the Helm "giving" powers did it. Battle 9. Fate, Darkseid's storngest avatars, and others. The female Fate was stated to be at half power, and from what I can tell from the previous issues, was still quite new to being Fate and not particularly masterful or confident in her abilities. The preceding issues also gave me the impression that Linda was extremely new to being fate, and didn't even particularly want or like it. If stalemating Desaad and being hard-pressed by perhaps 2 dozen parademons is really a legitimate showing for these Fates, and Nelson is weaker, then I am inclined to think Darkseid would completely slaughter-stomp him in a random encounter. This version of Fate is also possessed by the essence of Nabu in the helmet whenever he dons it. Going by what you're saying, it seems like this would only be true of the Silver Age Nelson, and the post-crisis incarnation is actually much more puny than most people probably think. As has been shown Odin is in another league above darkseid and Fate is around equal to strange. Dr Fate once avoided a simultaneous attack from not only superman but also martian manhunter. Like most incarnations of the DC hero, he is made up of two individuals, a human host, namely Kent Nelson, and the god Nabu. Darkseid I Believe That Doctor Fate Could Pull Off Some Pretty Insane Stuff With His Magic, But Personally I Think Darkseid's Omega Beams And Super Strength Would Eventually Overwhelm Fate. 2) The scans of Darkseid addressing the Lords of Chaos and Order are from the same story arc as the Fates, so if you're going to insist it was Desaad who fought the Dr's, then it was also Desaad who spoke on equal terms with the Lords of C&O, not Darkseid. 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